In this live debate with David Clemens we discussed several topics, focused primarily on the tension between exposing election fraud and the need to win elections.
David falls very clearly in the “you can’t outvote the fraud” camp. He has posted variations on this theme several times on X, including in the last couple weeks:
When confronted with the fact the Trump just proved him wrong, he put on his tinfoil hat and claimed that some undisclosed intervention allowed Trump to win. So no credit to Trump and the army of honest and hardworking activists who busted tail knocking doors to get Trump across the finish line.
Another fascinating tidbit is his $320K payment that he received from a GiveSendGo campaign promoted primarily by Joe Oltmann. It’s actually still live campaign if you wish to chip in, lol.
For more background on Clements, members can read this report from last July from the archives that mapped out what I saw as the largest threats after the RNC, including Clements’ and Joe Oltmann’s Gideon 300 cult-like militia.
CORRECTION: I made a factual error when I said that Gregg Phillips negotiated on behalf of Flynn to give Staci Burk a $300K+ hush money payment via GiveSendGo. Gregg Phillips actually offered $100K - in cash. Mike Kinney, a member of the First Amendment Praetorian, which was allegedly holding Staci captive in her own home, later made the offer to her for over $300K via GiveSendGo if she signed an NDA.
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